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PGM-FI System Description - On-Board Snapshot

Overview 

For an easy analysis of problems, the PCM has three types of on-board snapshots: the on-board snapshot when DTC is stored, the on-board snapshot when the engine stalls, and the on-board snapshot when the engine does not start.

Control - On-board snapshot when engine stalls 

The preconditions for recording an on-board snapshot when the engine stalls are shown below. When an engine stall occurs under these preconditions, the parameters related to the engine stall are stored in the PCM - for a time span extending for 9 seconds before the engine stall and 1 second after the engine stall - covering a total of 10 seconds.

The precondition is: 

*: In case of an engine stall for a vehicle with manual transmission at a vehicle speed of 3.1 mph (5 km/h) or lower, the on-board snapshot is not memorized.

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Control - On-board snapshot when engine does not start 

The three types of 'engine is hard to start', 'engine will not start', and 'engine start but stalls immediately' are set for an on-board snapshot at the time of engine starting problems.

The preconditions for recording an on-board snapshot when engine does not start are as shown below, and when engine starting problems occur under these preconditions, the parameters related to the engine starting problems are memorized in the PCM.

The precondition is: 

The on-board snapshot when engine does not start has the timer for the evaluation of starting problems as a factor is variable, and it depends on the engine coolant temperature when the engine starts, the relation between the engine coolant temperature and the engine start time; as it is shown below.

Initial engine coolant temperature°F (°C) -40(-40) -22(-30) -13(-25) -4(-20) 5(-15) 14(-10) 194(90)
Engine start time (sec.) 6.0 6.0 3.0 2.25 1.5 1.5 1.5

On-board Snapshot Recording Zone 

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The on-board snapshot functions when the vehicle is in the ON mode, and the engine does not start during the first cranking. But, it will not function when cranking after the first cranking during the same ON mode cycle. For the on-board snapshot to function again, the vehicle needs to go to the OFF (LOCK) mode once, then back to the ON mode.

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On-board snapshot of "engine is hard to start" and "engine will not start": 

An on-board snapshot is taken when an engine does not start or when an engine is hard to start. The snapshot is taken when cranking (engine speed 500 rpm or lower) takes longer than the specified time (timer for the evaluation of starting problems: variable according to the conditions at the time of start). If it is determined that a starting problem exists, the parameters related to the starting problem (for 9 seconds before the evaluation of the starting problem and 1 second after the evaluation of starting problem) are stored in the PCM, covering a total of 10 seconds.

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On-board snapshot of "engine starts but stalls immediately": 

An on-board snapshot is taken when an engine stall occurs within 5 seconds after the engine starts, although the engine started (engine speed 500 rpm or higher) with cranking (engine speed 500 rpm or lower) within the specified time (timer for evaluation of starting problems: variable according to the conditions at the time of start). The parameters related to the stall after a complete combustion process for the 9 seconds before the engine stall and 1 second after the engine stall are stored in the PCM, covering a total of 10 seconds.

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