DTC P1708

DTC P1708  : Neutral Position Sensor B Circuit High Voltage

NOTE:  Before you troubleshoot, review the general troubleshooting information .

DTC (PGM-FI)

1. Problem verification

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   -2. Clear the DTC with the HDS.

   -3. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.

   DTC Description	Confirmed DTC	Pending DTC	Freeze Frame
   P1708 Neutral Position Sensor B Circuit High Voltage

   Is DTC P1708 indicated?

   YES 

   Go to step 2.

   NO 

   Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the neutral position sensor and the PCM. If the freeze data/on-board snapshot of this DTC is recorded, try to reproduce the failure under the same conditions with the freeze data/on-board snapshot .

2. DTC check

   -1. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.

   DTC Description	Confirmed DTC	Pending DTC	Freeze Frame
   P0852 Neutral Position Sensor A Circuit High Voltage
   P1708 Neutral Position Sensor B Circuit High Voltage

   Are DTC P0852 and P1708 indicated at the same time?

   YES 

   Go to step 3.

   NO 

   Go to step 5.

3. Determine possible failure area (neutral position sensor, others)

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   -2. Disconnect the following connector.

   Neutral position sensor 4P connector

   -3. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   -4. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle ON mode
   	Neutral position sensor 4P connector: disconnected
   Test point 1	Neutral position sensor 4P connector No. 1
   Test point 2	Neutral position sensor 4P connector No. 2

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   Is there about 5 V?

   YES 

   Replace the neutral position sensor .

   NO 

   Go to step 4.

4. Open wire check (SG2 line)

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   -2. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.

   -3. Disconnect the following connector.

   PCM connector B (51P)

   -4. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	Neutral position sensor 4P connector: disconnected
   	PCM connector B (51P): disconnected
   Test point 1	PCM connector B (51P) No. 5
   Test point 2	Neutral position sensor 4P connector No. 2

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   Is there continuity?

   YES 

   The SG2 wire is OK. Update the PCM if it does not have the latest software, or substitute a known-good PCM , then recheck. If DTC P1708 goes away and the PCM was updated, troubleshooting is complete. If DTC P1708 goes away and the PCM was substituted, replace the original PCM .

   NO 

   Repair an open in the SG2 wire between the PCM (B5) and the neutral position sensor.

5. Shorted wire check (NSS2 line to power)

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   -2. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.

   -3. Disconnect the following connector.

   PCM connector B (51P)

   Neutral position sensor 4P connector

   -4. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   -5. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle ON mode
   	Neutral position sensor 4P connector: disconnected
   	PCM connector B (51P): disconnected
   Test point 1	Neutral position sensor 4P connector No. 4
   Test point 2	Body ground

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   Is there any voltage?

   YES 

   Repair a short to power in the NSS2 wire between the PCM (B39) and the neutral position sensor.

   NO 

   Go to step 6.

6. Open wire check (NSS2 line)

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   -2. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	Neutral position sensor 4P connector: disconnected
   	PCM connector B (51P): disconnected
   Test point 1	PCM connector B (51P) No. 39
   Test point 2	Neutral position sensor 4P connector No. 4

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   Is there continuity?

   YES 

   Go to step 7.

   NO 

   Repair an open in the NSS2 wire between the PCM (B39) and the neutral position sensor.

7. PCM check

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   -2. Reconnect the following connector.

   PCM connector B (51P)

   -3. Connect terminals A and B with a jumper wire.

   Terminal A	Neutral position sensor 4P connector No. 2
   Terminal B	Neutral position sensor 4P connector No. 4

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   -4. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   -5. Check the parameter (s) below with the HDS.

   Signal	Current conditions
   	Values	Unit
   NEUTRAL POSITION SENSOR 2

   Is about 0V indicated?

   YES 

   Replace the neutral position sensor .

   NO 

   Update the PCM if it does not have the latest software, or substitute a known-good PCM , then recheck. If DTC P1708 goes away and the PCM was updated, troubleshooting is complete. If DTC P1708 goes away and the PCM was substituted, replace the original PCM .