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DTC 85: F-CAN Communication Error

  1. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).
  2. Check for DTCs in the ECM/PCM with the HDS.

    Are there any DTCs indicated? 

    YES  - Go to the indicated ECM/PCM troubleshooting.

    NO  - Go to step  3.

  3. Clear the DTC with the HDS.
  4. Turn the ignition switch OFF, then turn the ignition switch ON (II) again.
  5. Wait about 5 seconds.
  6. Check for DTCs with the HDS.

    Is DTC 85 indicated? 

    YES  - Go to step  7.

    NO  - The system is OK at this time.

  7. Test-drive the vehicle.

    Does the speedometer work? 

    YES  - Go to step  11.

    NO  - Go to step  8.

  8. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
  9. Disconnect the TPMS control unit 20P connector.
  10. Test-drive the vehicle.

    Does the speedometer work? 

    YES  - Check for loose terminals and poor connections at the TPMS control unit. If necessary, substitute a known-good TPMS control unit (see TPMS CONTROL UNIT REPLACEMENT ), and recheck.

    NO  - Substitute a known-good ECM/PCM and recheck.

  11. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
  12. Short the SCS line with the HDS.
  13. Disconnect ECM/PCM connector E (31P).
  14. Disconnect the TPMS control unit 20P connector.
  15. Check for continuity between the TPMS control unit 20P connector terminals and ECM/PCM connector E (31P) terminals individually, (see table).
    CONNECTOR TERMINAL REFERENCE

    Terminal name TPMS control unit terminal ECM/PCM E terminal
    CANL No. 11 No. 24
    CANH No. 1 No. 11
    Fig 1: Checking Continuity Between TPMS Control Unit 20P Connector Terminals And ECM/PCM Connector E (31P) Terminals
    G05455962Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there continuity? 

    YES  - Check for loose terminals and poor connections at the TPMS control unit. If necessary, substitute a known-good TPMS control unit (see TPMS CONTROL UNIT REPLACEMENT ), and recheck.

    NO  - Repair open in the wire between TPMS control unit and the ECM/PCM.