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DTC P0365: CMP Sensor No Signal

NOTE: Before you troubleshoot, record all freeze data and any on-board snapshot, and review the general troubleshooting information (see GENERAL TROUBLESHOOTING INFORMATION ).
  1. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).
  2. Clear the DTC with the HDS.
  3. Start the engine.
  4. Check for Temporary DTCs or DTCs with the HDS.

    Is DTC P0365 indicated? 

    YES  - Go to step  5.

    NO  - Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the CMP sensor and the ECM/PCM.

  5. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
  6. Disconnect the CMP sensor 3P connector.
  7. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).
  8. Measure voltage between CMP sensor 3P connector terminal No. 3 and body ground.
    Fig 1: Measuring Voltage Between CMP Sensor 3P Connector Terminal No. 3 And Body Ground
    G05454548Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there battery voltage? 

    YES  - Go to step  9.

    NO  - Repair open in the wire between the CMP sensor and PGM-FI main relay 1 (Fl MAIN), then go to step  19.

  9. Measure voltage between CMP sensor 3P connector terminal No. 1 and body ground.
    Fig 2: Measuring Voltage Between CMP Sensor 3P Connector Terminal No. 1 And Body Ground
    G05454549Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there about 5 V? 

    YES  - Go to step  10.

    NO  - Go to step  11.

  10. Measure voltage between CMP sensor 3P connector terminals No. 2 and No. 3.
    Fig 3: Measuring Voltage Between CMP Sensor 3P Connector Terminals No. 2 And No. 3
    G05454550Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there battery voltage? 

    YES  - Go to step  17.

    NO  - Repair open in the wire between the CMP sensor and G101, then go to step  19.

  11. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
  12. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.
  13. Disconnect ECM/PCM connector A (31P).
  14. Check for continuity between ECM/PCM connector terminal A6 and body ground.
    Fig 4: Checking Continuity Between ECM/PCM Connector Terminal A6 And Body Ground
    G05454551Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there continuity? 

    YES  - Repair short in the wire between the ECM/PCM (A6) and the CMP sensor, then go to step  19.

    NO  - Go to step  15.

  15. Connect CMP sensor 3P connector terminal No. 1 to body ground with a jumper wire.
    Fig 5: Identifying CMP Sensor 3P Connector Terminal No. 1 To Body Ground With Jumper Wire
    G05454552Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.
  16. Check for continuity between ECM/PCM connector terminal A6 and body ground.
    Fig 6: Checking Continuity Between ECM/PCM Connector Terminal A6 And Body Ground
    G05454553Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there continuity? 

    YES  - Go to step  25.

    NO  - Repair open in the wire between the ECM/PCM (A6) and the CMP sensor, then go to step  19.

  17. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
  18. Replace the CMP sensor (see CMP SENSOR REPLACEMENT ).
  19. Reconnect all connectors.
  20. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).
  21. Reset the ECM/PCM with the HDS.
  22. Do the ECM/PCM idle learn procedure (see ECM/PCM IDLE LEARN PROCEDURE ).
  23. Start the engine.
  24. Check for Temporary DTCs or DTCs with the HDS.

    Is DTC P0365 indicated? 

    YES  - Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the CMP sensor and the ECM/PCM, then go to step  1.

    NO  - Troubleshooting is complete. If any other Temporary DTCs or DTCs are indicated, go to the indicated DTCs troubleshooting.

  25. Reconnect all connectors.
  26. Update the ECM/PCM if it does not have the latest software (see UPDATING THE ECM/PCM ), or substitute a known-good ECM/PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE ECM/PCM ).
  27. Check for Temporary DTCs or DTCs with the HDS.

    Is DTC P0365 indicated? 

    YES  - Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the CMP sensor and the ECM/PCM. If the ECM/PCM was updated, substitute a known-good ECM/PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE ECM/PCM ), then recheck. If the ECM/PCM was substituted, go to step  1.

    NO  - If the ECM/PCM was updated, troubleshooting is complete. If the ECM/PCM was substituted, replace the original ECM/PCM (see ECM/PCM REPLACEMENT ). If any other Temporary DTCs or DTCs are indicated, go to the indicated DTCs troubleshooting.