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DTC Advanced Diagnostics: P08B2 (1.5L Engine) (2025)

DTC P08B2  : Neutral Position Sensor A/B Correlation

General Description 

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Table A: Neutral position sensor output voltage 

  NSS1 voltage NSS2 voltage
Neutral 2.7 - 3.0 V 1.35 - 1.5 V

Neutral position sensor A and neutral position sensor B are semiconductor type that output different voltage characteristics. Each neutral position sensor outputs voltage which depends on the condition is shown in Table A. The powertrain control module (PCM) judges whether it is in neutral or not from the neutral position sensor output voltage, and uses the information for various controls and auto idle stop system control (if equipped). Neutral position sensor A is for judging the neutral, and neutral position sensor B compares their output voltage to each other for malfunction detection. When the voltage correlation of neutral position sensor A and neutral position sensor B is out of a specified range for a set time, the PCM detects a malfunction and stores a DTC.

Monitor Execution, Sequence, Duration, DTC Type 

Execution Continuous
Sequence None
Duration 2.1 seconds or more
DTC Type Two drive cycle, MIL on

Enable Conditions 

Condition Minimum Maximum
12 volt battery voltage [Battery] 10.0 V -
Vehicle ON mode

[ ]: HDS Parameter

Malfunction Threshold 

The neutral position sensor correlation allowed voltage in Table B is specified value or more for at least 2.1 seconds.

Table B: The neutral position sensor A voltage and the neutral position sensor B voltage correlation 

Neutral position sensor A output voltage 0.92 V or less 1.06 V 3.49 V
Sensor correlation allowed voltage 0.20 V 0.43 V 0.87 V

The neutral position sensor correlation allowed voltage calculate expression: Neutral position sensor A voltage/2 - Neutral position sensor B voltage

Possible Cause 

NOTE:

The causes shown may not be a complete list of all potential problems, and it is possible that there may be other causes.

  • Neutral position sensor A NSS1 line short to neutral position sensor B NSS2 line
  • Neutral position sensor A failure
  • Neutral position sensor B failure
  • PCM internal circuit failure

Diagnosis Details 

Conditions for setting the DTC 

When a malfunction is detected during the first drive cycle, a Pending DTC is stored in the PCM memory. If the malfunction returns in the next (second) drive cycle, the MIL comes on and a Confirmed DTC, the freeze data, and the on-board snapshot are stored.

Conditions for clearing the DTC 

The MIL is cleared if the malfunction does not return in three consecutive trips in which the diagnostic runs. The MIL, the Pending DTC, the Confirmed DTC, the freeze data, and the on-board snapshot can be cleared with the scan tool clear command.