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DTC P0617

DTC P0617  : Starter Cut Relay Diagnosis Circuit High Voltage

NOTE: Before you troubleshoot, record all freeze data and any on-board snapshot, and review the general troubleshooting information .
DTC Description Confirmed DTC Pending DTC Freeze Frame
P0617 Starter Cut Relay Diagnosis Circuit High Voltage      

DTC (PGM-FI)

  1. Problem verification

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    -2. Clear the DTC with the HDS .

    -3. Check the parameter(s) below with the HDS.

    Signal Threshold Current conditions
    Values Unit Values Unit
    STARTER CUT RELAY More than 4.9 V    

    Do the current condition(s) match the threshold?

    YES 

    The failure is duplicated. Go to step 2.

    NO 

    Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box, starter cut relay 1, starter cut relay 2, and the PCM.

  2. Determine possible failure area (START DIAG line, others)

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    -2. Remove the following fuse.

    Fuse No. D25 (7.5 A)
    Location Driver's under-dash fuse/relay box

    -3. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    -4. Check the parameter(s) below with the HDS.

    Signal Threshold Current conditions
    Values Unit Values Unit
    STARTER CUT RELAY More than 4.9 V    

    Do the current condition(s) match the threshold?

    YES 

    Go to step 4.

    NO 

    The START DIAG wire is OK. Go to step 3.

  3. Relay check

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    -2. Remove starter cut relay 1 (A) from the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box.

    GHH344954Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    -3. Test starter cut relay 1 .

    Is the relay OK?

    YES 

    Go to step 4.

    NO 

    Replace starter cut relay 1, then do the repair verification.

  4. Determine possible failure area (PCM, others)

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    -2. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.

    -3. Disconnect the following connector.

    PCM connector A (51P)

    -4. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    -5. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle ON mode
    Starter cut relay 1: disconnected
    PCM connector A (51P): disconnected
    Test circuit START DIAG
    Test point 1 PCM connector A (51P) No. 26 (PNK)
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH344955Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there about 0.1 V or less?

    YES 

    The START DIAG wire is OK. Update the PCM if it does not have the latest software, or substitute a known-good PCM , then do the repair verification.

    NO 

    Go to step 5.

  5. Shorted wire check (START DIAG line to power)

    -1. Disconnect the following connector.

    Driver's under-dash fuse/relay box connector F (32P)

    -2. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    -3. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle ON mode
    Starter cut relay 1: disconnected
    PCM connector A (51P): disconnected
    Driver's under-dash fuse/relay box connector F (32P): disconnected
    Test circuit START DIAG
    Test point 1 PCM connector A (51P) No. 26 (PNK)
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH344956Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there about 0.1 V or less?

    YES 

    The START DIAG wire is OK. Replace the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box , then do the repair verification.

    NO 

    Repair a short to power in the START DIAG wire between the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box and the PCM (A26), then do the repair verification.

  6. Repair verification

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    -2. Reconnect all connectors.

    -3. Exit the SCS mode with the HDS.

    -4. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    -5. Reset the PCM with the HDS .

    Reset PCM

    -6. Do the PCM idle learn procedure.

    -7. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.

    DTC Description Confirmed DTC Pending DTC Freeze Frame
    P0617 Starter Cut Relay Diagnosis Circuit High Voltage      

    DTC (PGM-FI)

    Is DTC P0617 indicated?

    YES 

    Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box, starter cut relay 1, starter cut relay 2, and the PCM. If the PCM was updated, substitute a known-good PCM , then recheck. If the PCM was substituted, go to step 1.

    NO 

    Troubleshooting is complete. If the PCM was substituted, replace the original PCM . If any other Pending or Confirmed DTCs are indicated, go to the indicated DTC's troubleshooting.