DTC B1827: Power Seat Rear Up-down Motor Pulse Error ('07-08 models)
- Turn the ignition switch OFF and then back ON (II).
- Clear the DTCs with the HDS.
- Operate the power seat adjustment switch in each direction for more than 1 second.
- Check for the DTCs with the HDS.
Is DTC B1827 indicated?
YES - Go to step 5.
NO - Intermittent failure. The rear up-down motor/ position sensor is OK at this time. Check for loose or poor connections at the power seat control unit connector.
- Clear the DTCs with the HDS.
Are DTCs B1825, B1826 and/or B1828 also indicated?
YES - Go to step 18.
NO - Go to step 6.
- Clear the DTCs with the HDS.
- Turn the ignition switch OFF and then back ON (II).
- Operate the rear up-down switch for 2 seconds, and check the rear up-down motor operation.
Does the rear up-down motor run smoothly?
YES - Go to step 9.
NO - Go to step 26.
- Turn the ignition switch OFF.
- Disconnect power seat control unit connector A (40P).
- Disconnect the rear up-down motor/position sensor 5P connector.
- Check for continuity between power seat control unit connector A (40P) terminals No. 13 and No. 29 and rear up-down motor/position sensor 5P connector terminals No. 5 and No. 4 respectively.Fig 1: Checking Continuity Between Power Seat Control Unit Connector A (40P) Terminals No. 13 And No. 29
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Is there continuity?
YES - Go to step 13.
NO - Repair an open in the wire.
- Check for continuity between power seat control unit connector A (40P) terminal No. 13 and body ground.Fig 2: Checking Continuity Between Power Seat Control Unit Connector A (40P) Terminal No. 13 And Body Ground
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Is there continuity?
YES - Repair a short in the wire.
NO - Go to step 14.
- Reconnect power seat control unit connector A (40P).
- Turn the ignition switch ON (II).
- Measure the voltage between rear up-down motor/position sensor 5P connector terminals No. 5 (+) and No. 4 (-).Fig 3: Measuring Voltage Between Rear Up-Downn Motor/Position Sensor 5P Connector Terminals No. 5 And No. 4
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Is there about 5 V?
YES - Replace the rear up-down motor/position sensor.
NO - If there is no voltage, replace the power seat control unit. If there is battery voltage, repair a short in the wire (sensor line).
- Turn the ignition switch OFF.
- Disconnect power seat control unit connector A (40P).
- Disconnect the rear up-down motor/position sensor 5P connector.
- Check for continuity between power seat control unit connector A (40P) terminals No. 15 and No. 29 and rear up-down motor/position sensor 5P connector terminals No. 3 and No. 4 respectively.Fig 4: Checking Continuity Between Power Seat Control Unit Connector A (40P) Terminals No. 15 And No. 29
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Is there continuity?
YES - Go to step 21.
NO - Repair an open in the wire.
- Disconnect the slide position sensor 3P connector and each 5P connector from the recline motor/position sensor and the front up-down motor/position sensor.
- Check for continuity between rear up-down motor/ position sensor terminal No. 3 and body ground.Fig 5: Checking Continuity Between Rear Up-Down Motor/Position Sensor Terminal No. 3 And Body Ground
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Is there continuity?
YES - Repair a short in the wire.
NO - Go to step 23.
- Reconnect power seat control unit connector A (40P).
- Turn the ignition switch ON (II).
- Measure the voltage between power seat control unit connector A (40P) terminals No. 15 and No. 29.Fig 6: Measuring Voltage Between Power Seat Control Unit Connector A (40P) Terminals No. 15 And No. 29
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Is there battery voltage when the rear up-down switch is operated?
YES - Replace the rear up-down motor/position sensor.
NO - Replace the power seat control unit.
- Turn the ignition switch OFF.
- Disconnect power seat control unit connector B (18P).
- Disconnect the rear up-down motor/position sensor 5P connector.
- Check for continuity between power seat control unit connector B (18P) terminals No. 2 and No. 10 and rear up-down motor/position sensor 5P connector terminals No. 1 and No. 2 respectively.Fig 7: Checking Continuity Between Power Seat Control Unit Connector B (18P) Terminals No. 2 And No. 10
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Is there continuity?
YES - Go to step 30.
NO - Repair an open in the wire.
- Check for continuity between body ground and rear up-down motor/position sensor 5P connector terminals No. 1 and No. 2 individually.Fig 8: Checking Continuity Between Body Ground And Position Sensor 5P Connector Terminals No. 1 And No. 2
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Is there continuity?
YES - Repair a short in the wire.
NO - Go to step 31.
- Test the rear up-down motor (see DRIVER'S POWER SEAT MOTOR TEST
).
Is the motor OK?
YES - Replace the power seat control unit.
NO - Replace the rear up-down motor/position sensor.